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PostSubject: Re: Clan Match Vs GoM   Clan Match Vs GoM - Page 2 EmptyTue 30 Aug 2011, 13:47

Is this in the events calender with the right date/time - along with a pre-game practise entry?


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PostSubject: Re: Clan Match Vs GoM   Clan Match Vs GoM - Page 2 EmptyTue 30 Aug 2011, 14:21

It's posted to the calendar. Is there anything else I have missed while i was away?
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Match Vs GoM   Clan Match Vs GoM - Page 2 EmptyWed 31 Aug 2011, 01:44

GoM have confirmed 5, they cant decide on the maps (as they are very diplomatic) and have confirmed it will be HC.

I have chosen jungle and Sumit based on my experiance, @gent-Zero has said hanger as a map, if we decide Hanger, or if another map is prefered please say as soon as possible.

We will pick the sides we start for our games, so i know Jungle and Sumit we can get B flag quickly, thats my train of thought.

Players confirmed are

Viper
Inover
Dubant0r
E.R
B-Rock
@gent-Zero
LH

Sharky still not sure.

The obvious thing below is squad rotation, this has been decided to give all those who confirmed a game & to get @gent Zero on as he is GMT+1 so needs to log off sooner than the rest.

1st game - DOM Sumit
Viper
Inover
@gent-Zero
E.R
B-Rock

2nd game - DOM Jungle
@gent-Zero
Viper
Dubonat0r
Inover
L.H.

Game 3 - HC - Game type and map TBC (they can host)
LH
ER
Inover
Duanat0r
B-Rock


Game 4 - HC - Game type and map TBC (they can host)
B-Rock
Inover
Dubonat0r
Viper
LH

We won't go OTT with tactics, but will post up initial contact points & numbers against roles, those who would prefer to play a certain role can say so.
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Match Vs GoM   Clan Match Vs GoM - Page 2 EmptyWed 31 Aug 2011, 04:31

Tactics. Kill, kill and kill again. Don't die, kill, kill and capture a flag or two.

Happy Killings..... Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Match Vs GoM   Clan Match Vs GoM - Page 2 EmptyWed 31 Aug 2011, 06:01


****Update GoM have confirmed 6 players, new teams announced****


GoM have confirmed 5, they cant decide on the maps (as they are very diplomatic) and have confirmed it will be HC.

I have chosen jungle and Sumit based on my experiance, @gent-Zero has said hanger as a map, if we decide Hanger, or if another map is prefered please say as soon as possible.

We will pick the sides we start for our games, so i know Jungle and Sumit we can get B flag quickly, thats my train of thought.

Players confirmed are

Viper
Inover
Dubant0r
E.R
B-Rock
@gent-Zero
LH

Sharky still not sure.

The obvious thing below is squad rotation, this has been decided to give all those who confirmed a game & to get @gent Zero on as he is GMT+1 so needs to log off sooner than the rest.

1st game - DOM Sumit
Viper
Inover
@gent-Zero
E.R
B-Rock
LH

2nd game - DOM Jungle
@gent-Zero
Viper
Dubonat0r
Inover
L.H.
BRock

Game 3 - HC - HQ Sumit (they can host)
LH
ER
Inover
Dubanat0r
B-Rock
@agent Zero

Game 4 - HC - DEM Grid - (they can host)
B-Rock
Inover
Dubonat0r
Viper
LH
ER

We won't go OTT with tactics, but will post up initial contact points & numbers against roles, those who would prefer to play a certain role can say so.
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Match Vs GoM   Clan Match Vs GoM - Page 2 EmptyWed 31 Aug 2011, 06:08

ooh I love Hardcore - I'd say as many of the team as can make it should practise some HC games over the next couple of nights - it does feel different and if you never play it .... worth mentioning friendly fire!!


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PostSubject: Re: Clan Match Vs GoM   Clan Match Vs GoM - Page 2 EmptyWed 31 Aug 2011, 06:27

Im a big fan of HC too, used to play alot of HC TDM & HC SnD.

Cant wait, should be fun.
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Match Vs GoM   Clan Match Vs GoM - Page 2 EmptyWed 31 Aug 2011, 16:41

i will play if u all need me i will practice HC TDM tonight.
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Match Vs GoM   Clan Match Vs GoM - Page 2 EmptyWed 31 Aug 2011, 16:52

Your in, see teams?
Hc tdm & hc DEM, good news, one of there best players isnt playing.
Only one player really to fear in DOM, i think we can do this .... Wohooo
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Match Vs GoM   Clan Match Vs GoM - Page 2 EmptyThu 01 Sep 2011, 01:14

Below are thoughts on positioning, ill be on @ 21:00 to go through anything with yourselves, so thats 30 mins for a run around.

Things to remember;
It's a friendly, this is for experiance there is no need to stress before, during or after.

Call outs - make them quick and clean. Any questions, comments etc please let me know.

Sumit

1. Initial contact point – Downstairs room on the right hand side to the main where B is.
Preferred weapon / Assault
Secondary – Strella
Preferred Equipment - Claymore
Preferred Perk 1 Flakjacket
Preferred Perk 2 – Warlord Pro
Preferred Perk 3 – Marathon


2. Initial contact point – Upstairs to the right side of B as they come up the stairs.
Preferred Weapon – Assault or LMG
Secondary – Strella
Preferred Equipment – Tac Insert
Preferred Perk 1 Flakjacket
Preferred Perk 2 – Warlord Pro
Preferred Perk 3 – Marathon

3, 4, 5 & 6 – Initial ctc points B – grenades to be staggered first by 3 & 4, then by 5 & 6.

3 – B Flag – Objective –to keep the Cliffside entrance to B Clear.

Preferred Equipment – Claymore (preferably placed at the bottom of the stairs)
Tac Grenade - Smoke
Preferred Perk 1 Scavenger
Preferred Perk 2 – Warlord Pro
Preferred Perk 3 – Marathon

4 - B flag To obtain and Keep B – Preferred location is standing on the computer which allows you to take B.

Tac Grenade – Flash/Stun
Preferred tac Grenade – Stun/nova gas
Preferred Equipment – Tac Insert
Preferred Perk 1 Scavenger
Preferred Perk 2 – Warlord Pro
Preferred Perk 3 – Marathon

5 - B flag To obtain and Keep B
Preferred tac Grenade – Stun/nova gas
Preferred Equipment – Tac Insert
Preferred Perk 1 Scavenger
Preferred Perk 2 – Warlord Pro
Preferred Perk 3 – Marathon

6 - B flag To obtain and Keep B
Preferred tac grenade - Smoke
Preferred Equipment – Tac Insert
Preferred Perk 1 Scavenger
Preferred Perk 2 – Warlord Pro
Preferred Perk 3 – Marathon


Jungle

1. Objective to watch the village , possibly move forward enough to get into the hut ( and see sniper cliff)
Preferred weapon LMG/ Assault
Secondary – Strella
Preferred Equipment – Tac Insert
Preferred Perk 1 Lightweight
Preferred Perk 2 – S.O.H
Preferred Perk 3 – Marathon

2. To move left and make their way up towards the wooden bridge from the left. Do move too quick as your second best in timings to make the ctc point. When you think its clear move towards the bridge.
Preferred Equipment – Tac Insert
Preferred Perk 1 Flakjacket
Preferred Perk 2 – Warlord Pro
Preferred Perk 3 – Marathon
3, 4, 5 & 6 – Initial ctc points B – grenades to be staggered first by 3 & 4, then by 5 & 6 @ both entry point coming down the hill from there side and at the hut.

3 – B Flag – Objective –to hide behind the barrels where you can take B.
Preferred Equipment – Claymore
Tac Grenade - Smoke
Preferred Perk 1 Flakjacket
Preferred Perk 2 – Warlord Pro
Preferred Perk 3 – Marathon

4 - B flag To obtain and Keep B – To hide in the corner next to the ladder up to the hut that overseas B.
Preferred tac Grenade – Flash/Stun/nova gas
Preferred Equipment – Tac Insert
Preferred Perk 1 Flakjacket
Preferred Perk 2 – Warlord Pro
Preferred Perk 3 – Tac Mask

5 - B flag To obtain and Keep B – Once B is kept, to then move to assist number one in covering Wooden bridge/hut that looks over B.
Preferred tac Grenade – Stun/nova gas
Preferred Equipment – Tac Insert
Preferred Perk 1 Scavenger
Preferred Perk 2 – Warlord Pro
Preferred Perk 3 – Marathon

6 - B flag To obtain and Keep B
Preferred tac grenade - Smoke
Preferred Equipment – Tac Insert
Preferred Perk 1 Flakjacket
Preferred Perk 2 – Warlord Pro
Preferred Perk 3 – Marathon
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Match Vs GoM   Clan Match Vs GoM - Page 2 EmptyThu 01 Sep 2011, 04:20

How do we know who is in which position? Will that be discussed tonight?

When I've finished at my daughters, sometime this afternoon, I'm going to have to get onto HC training.
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Match Vs GoM   Clan Match Vs GoM - Page 2 EmptyThu 01 Sep 2011, 04:40

Had quite a few HC games in combat training last night just to get used to the HC part in preparation for tonight, and I found a couple of things interesting.

First I found the perk "scavenger" quite useful as I didn't have to worry about how many bullets I had left, as long as I kept reloading after every kill and I kept picking up those little blue bags.

The seconed thing I found was that in HC TDM you can spawn trap the enemy team quite easily.

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PostSubject: Re: Clan Match Vs GoM   Clan Match Vs GoM - Page 2 EmptyThu 01 Sep 2011, 15:33

oh sh*t - i've just seen the teams .. didn't think I was taking part ... loggin on but hoping you don't need me cos i haven't prepared! oh god - sorry!


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PostSubject: Re: Clan Match Vs GoM   Clan Match Vs GoM - Page 2 EmptyThu 01 Sep 2011, 17:18

I shan't be playing objective games again. I hated every minute of tonights clan match.

Firstly i was in positions on Summit and Jungle in dom which didn't work for me.

Secondly HCHQ - every time I spawned I got killed then someone wasn't impressed (not Viper) because I didn't do something - no idea what that something was as I don't know the game.

I left to let another player take my place in the 4th game.

All in all I'd rather play a game the way I play and not how I'm asked to play.

For those of you who enjoy these types of games, great. They aren't for me.


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PostSubject: Re: Clan Match Vs GoM   Clan Match Vs GoM - Page 2 EmptyThu 01 Sep 2011, 17:40

Well I was rubbish in those last two even by my standards but very much enjoyed the first two games - great win on the second domination .. GOM were a nice bunch - Viper, thanks for organising!!!!!!!

Would they be up for regular matches - probably best stick to Domination which both teams were fairly good at, and Core if possible, then we don't have to worry about special training for the game types we are not used to.


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PostSubject: Re: Clan Match Vs GoM   Clan Match Vs GoM - Page 2 EmptyThu 01 Sep 2011, 18:17

Great games guys.
We really need to upload the first Dom game. It was so freakin close. No spoilers yet. People should really see it for themselves.
2nd game we dominates pretty damn well. 3rd and 4th game were rather a beat up for us but oh well Hardcore was never my thing and I literally never ever played hardcore HQ or DEM.
I'll probably watch those two games from the enemy perspective.

It seemed to me like they really knew for the whole time where everyone of them has to move at which time. Than they were pretty much all "camping" near the target and picked us (or at least me) up like flies.

Special thanks to Viper for organising this and those guys were really very very nice. Anytime again even if we have to play Hardcore once more.

Btw. does any of you know if they recorded the match? I'd also love to hear there communication during the matches.
Our communication was pretty good for Dom but especially on HQ we played veeeeeery silently and with no map at all it was especially important to communicate. Not only to say where the enemy is but also where we were. It happened so often that I was running to a "spot" where somebody was already overwatching it. I ran back and somebody else was also running to the same spot.
I think it's fair to say that our communication wasn't even close to be good enough for something like Hardcore...at least not without any experience in it.

Just my 2 cents on what we could improve.

But again it was really a blast to play with you and I enjoyed myself a lot.
Thank you for the good Company ;-)

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PostSubject: Re: Clan Match Vs GoM   Clan Match Vs GoM - Page 2 EmptyThu 01 Sep 2011, 18:31

Great matches viper, thanks. Cant wait to do it again. Twisted Evil

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PostSubject: Re: Clan Match Vs GoM   Clan Match Vs GoM - Page 2 EmptyFri 02 Sep 2011, 05:19

Lots of points to discuss on the whole thing responses to comments i'll put in yellow and bold.

LadyHazard wrote:

Firstly i was in positions on Summit and Jungle in dom which didn't work for me.

On sumit, the points laid out were initial contact points, which we needed to make, so we could let the 4 others get to B first. Thats why when you asked about preferred weapon, i said an assault rifle, but play with what you are comfortable with. I know i fell out of the initial ctc point quickly ( i never accounted for taking our own flag Embarassed ) this would have left you isoloated on a small map is a lot to handle. TBH im not sure how we lost this 201-200, i thought we clearly had them. I will watch this one back, because im not sure how we managed to loose B so often, so quick. My intial "anti lag" which i had at the lag test and then at the start of the game, cleared up and all seemed OK for me, but all in all. i don't remember playing well on this.

Jungle, of all the times ive played TDM on Jungle your the only person who who has ever really made any comments on tactics, which have been to hold the village. With this in mind, you would be comfortable over there, the idea that the more you pushed forward, the better it was. If you saw someone, you could relay that info, if you died, we had sufficent time to back track back to A. I did request this and thought you done what was needed. I think they caught us off guard once (that i remember) and didnt take A on that occasion. So for me, you gave it up for theam & done well, which is always appreciated & what clan matches are about, even TDM matches you will find sacrifices are needed


Secondly HCHQ - every time I spawned I got killed then someone wasn't impressed (not Viper) because I didn't do something - no idea what that something was as I don't know the game.

Glad it wasn't me, cause even though i thought i understood HQ but wasn't good at it, i never had a clue. Putting people down within matches can't be accepted, especially in this sort of match where we are trying to promote fun and getting a feel for how matches run, constructive feeback and the end is the only way to go. This is a black mark on the night.

All in all I'd rather play a game the way I play and not how I'm asked to play.

Fair point




EnglishRose wrote:


Well I was rubbish in those last two even by my standards but very much enjoyed the first two games - great win on the second domination .. GOM were a nice bunch - Viper, thanks for organising!!!!!!!

Thanks for the vote in confidence, i finished below you on the last game Very Happy
Would they be up for regular matches - probably best stick to Domination which both teams were fairly good at, and Core if possible, then we don't have to worry about special training for the game types we are not used to.

They are a good bunch, there is no reason we either couldnt ask for core TDM or play these as our games of choice. I believe they will be up for something regularly, but will expand on that in my final summary.

@gent-zer0 wrote:
Btw. does any of you know if they recorded the match? I'd also love to hear there communication during the matches.

Unlikely - TBH, i'm still not sure how you recored in game chat


Our communication was pretty good for Dom but especially on HQ we played veeeeeery silently and with no map at all it was especially important to communicate.

I think it's fair to say that our communication wasn't even close to be good enough for something like Hardcore...at least not without any experience in it.

Agreed, but as said this was a flavor for things to come. For someone who cant shut the hell up in DOM, i dont think i said anything other than no problems when i was team killed a couple of time. Maybe its my or our concentration on a new mode/game type and the fact we were out manouvered doesn't help. But your spot on.

Just my 2 cents on what we could improve.
Constructive feeback and your two cents are always appreciated


A little back ground on GoM, they were originally core players, then a group of HC players turned up and eventually they all turned to HC. The clan did split up into two, with one side staying as GoM and the other side renaming themselves DiRT gaming, that side has less respect for others than this side, but at the same time, they do game together, keeping up full lobbies and do do inter clan matches together, only real difference is who posts on what forum. But i have decided unless im given the names of the Dirt guys, then they arent to be included, this may hold up a regular thing, but may not. Like us and most "mature" clans, people do have lives, so we will have problems attending. we may need patience with each other and others.

As said, they only play HC now, as there are less game types available, it is inevitable that they will be specialists in the few game tyes they offer. None-the-less, they have been together longer, played in GB matches together, so we didnt have much of a chance in those game types, i actually cant understand how they never picked HC SnD or HC TDM. It is what it is, but if you look back, HC HQ despite what was said, when i checked the score, it was 165-135 at one stage & HQ DEM, it went into the deciding round. We may have been battered and frustrated, but we never rolled over and let them take it.

I'm sure if we look at DOM summit, you will see they were taking B like a HQ site, they waited for there moment and then struck as a team, watching what they done on this game will also be beneficial.

Jungel was a very good performance by us and thought we played very well.



It is important that if people put there name down they do attend, should they not be able to, a post on the shout box or in the thread for that match is needed at the ealiest point possible, but at the same time, thats why its important to have at least one sub.

I see good things happening on the xbox side that i hope will continue, we see some good things and some good numbers happening with the US/CA guys, spearheaded by Shady (BTW great Job by you all.)

I'm going to start moving forward on more matches and build a GB team or two, along with Sharky & Inover i believe we can get Friendlies & proper matches (although i suggest we dont move to GB untill MW3), but can still have a team in place. This may be a slow process, but im sure we can get something steady going.

Ive said it before, i'll say it again... I'm an average player at best, so i tend to think that Team work, comunication & preperation in these things are key. I dont believe in O.T.T tactics as games never plan out that way, but initial ctc points and an understanding of key area's that need to be occupied we need to know as well any possible area's the enemy will occupy.
If people want to be involved it is important that they visit the site regularly , everyone can't be pleased, so i'll always look to go with the majority & inc as many
people that want to play as possible that includes the American's, this isn't exclusive to UK/EU.

On a personal note it was great to hear these guys voices again, a bond which i hope we can replicate and better, a bond that has and will to grow within 4GC.

The above mentioned black mark, isn't really acceptable. I know things are said in the heat of the moment, but if the person knows who they are & remembers what may have LH to feel like this, then please PM her with an appology. After all she only offered to fill a gap if there was one.

Thanks to all those who played and jumped in... All in all, for me a success!

Viper

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PostSubject: Re: Clan Match Vs GoM   Clan Match Vs GoM - Page 2 EmptyFri 02 Sep 2011, 06:11

Quote :
this would have left you isoloated

This is exactly how I felt on Summit and on Jungle.

Summit and Jungle are two of my favourite maps and I usually do well. In trying to play in the role I was given I did appalingly.

On Summit, I missed the opportunity to 'guard' my favourite spot and also capture any flags.

On Jungle I was all alone with nothing to do but get the occasional kill or get killed by a sniper. I had no captures and probably not many defends.

On HCHQ on Summit I had no idea what I was doing. Spawn, die, spawn, die. It was so frustrating. At one point I actually managed to get inside parked down ready to defend and everyone disappeared. The HQ had moved and I didn't even realise. To be snided at really p****d me off and that's why i left to let another 4GC take my place.

For me it was not an ejoyable night which is a shame because of all the hard work Viper did to bring it together.

The GOM boys were a nice bunch and it would be great if you could get together on a regular basis, but definitely without me.

I have been trying to get TDM matches going but so far there are no takers from anyone serious enough. They either don't turn up or they don't have a full team. All I can do is keep bumping the posts.
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Match Vs GoM   Clan Match Vs GoM - Page 2 EmptyFri 02 Sep 2011, 08:30

It occurs to me there are two special mentions for the night, and both go to Revolver:

great communication throughout, especially when English isn't his first language

and

most 'friendly kills' in hardcore!! - if it wasn't a private match he'd have been booted for sure.


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PostSubject: Re: Clan Match Vs GoM   Clan Match Vs GoM - Page 2 EmptyFri 02 Sep 2011, 11:05

EnglishRose wrote:
It occurs to me there are two special mentions for the night, and both go to Revolver:

great communication throughout, especially when English isn't his first language

and

most 'friendly kills' in hardcore!! - if it wasn't a private match he'd have been booted for sure.

I demand a "special-awarding-super-gold-chocolate-medal-award-thread" for the second one...NOW. clown
Joking aside I'm truly sorry for all the teamkills and I had at least 5 gun kills and I don't know how many nade teamkills. Soundwhoring worked...only on teammates though. I felt so stupid appologising the whole time.

First point makes me blush Embarassed
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Match Vs GoM   Clan Match Vs GoM - Page 2 EmptyFri 02 Sep 2011, 13:58

Revolver - how about you do the write up for how the night went to post in the clan match review area under the PS3 calender area ... we need someone who understood what was happening - which isn't me! - to write up how it went - nothing personal about individual performances, just a summary of where the team did well, not so well, what we played and the results. .... you don't have to!


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PostSubject: Re: Clan Match Vs GoM   Clan Match Vs GoM - Page 2 EmptyFri 02 Sep 2011, 16:57

Got a message from GoM, they said they look frwd to future matches and said what good company it was to be in... ive asked about regular nights and should there be a need for a player or two, then im sure we could sort it out, but lets see how they go, if they set it up as a regular thing, then they should get the numbers.
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Match Vs GoM   Clan Match Vs GoM - Page 2 EmptyFri 02 Sep 2011, 17:50

Do they have any core TDM people?
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Match Vs GoM   Clan Match Vs GoM - Page 2 EmptyFri 02 Sep 2011, 17:54

not that i know of, but maybe our choice of games could be TDM next time, then jump out and let someone else do HC games cheers
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